Altfurry supports neo-nazi violence, with member Nathan Gate on camera in Charlottesville.
by Patch O'Furr
Altfurry is the term used by a tiny fringe of hateful bigots in the furry fandom. (It’s accurate to replace “alt” with “anti”, as you can see below). Last week they encouraged members to attend the “Unite the Right” rally where neo-nazis attacked and killed protesters. (archive)
One altfurry attendee was Nathan Gate / TheBigKK / KryptoKroenen – a college student from Arizona, and Hitler fan on Stormfront and Daily Stormer.
Here’s a gallery with some images of Nathan’s furry involvement. You may have already seen his involvement with Altfurry swatting Califur (below).
(UPDATE): Newsweek covered Nathan organizing for the Altfurry group, as well as nonfandom neo-nazis for Richard Spencer’s alt-right dot com. In the article Nathan lied that he was not a furry, which you can see contradicted in screenshots in the above link.
Nathan Gate was with the neo-nazis rallying in Charlottesville when a violent felony was caught on camera. Victim Deandre Harris spoke out, a crowdfund raised six figures for him and attackers were identified. Nathan watched and supported the attackers. (UPDATE: there have since been multiple felony convictions.)
All hands on deck.— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) August 13, 2017
WHO IS THIS MAN with the red beard?
He committed a violent felony. pic.twitter.com/nbYhxAPAOO
This "altright" writer was there and had a conversation with the attackers, he has a altright YouTube page too. pic.twitter.com/5HKDOCWpdZ— Will (@Reaver229) August 14, 2017
Nathan posted online to harass people supporting the victim, saying “it was beautiful watching his ass get beat”. If there was any question about privacy when attending a neo-nazi rally, there’s another answer for why this is public. (archive)
I saw it first hand, it was beautiful watching his ass get beat.— TheBigKK (@TheBigKK_) August 13, 2017
Altfurry Discord, run by Casey Hoerth AKA Len Gilbert – (finance writer for Motley Fool and The Street, and erotic nazifur fiction The Furred Reich) – posted more jokes about violence and murder done by neo-nazis. (archive)
#AltFurry cracking jokes about a terrorist attack.https://t.co/rRSIXHJlEL pic.twitter.com/p0Fri7ZcAl— John Atyxyt (@JohnAtyxyt) August 12, 2017
Nazi Furs are celebrating the murder of Heather Heyer & injury of other peaceful antiracist protesters by Nazi terrorist in #Charlotesville pic.twitter.com/em2nwYlM4c— Deo (@DeoTasDevil) August 13, 2017
Read more about how Altfurry targets kids for hate with Casey Hoerth (“Len”), Nathan Gate, and Stormfront members. Altfurry also attempts to cancel furry cons. Here’s screenshots from their chat to plan “swatting” against Califur, and one of Nathan Gate’s phone calls to help.
Who fucked over Califur?— Deo (@DeoTasDevil) June 27, 2017
Oh yeah it was those assholes organizing threatening calls inside their AltFurry Discord.
Nathan / TheBigKK is joined by a partner known as Vomitb0yy / Birb / KKKutie, who does furry art commissions while saying “the furry fandom are a bunch of degenerate pussies and it sucks getting grouped in with the tards.” (Chat screens below.) Nathan’s own message to furries says that he hopes “your nasty fandom is torn apart.”
Just got this on a comment section from an alt righter arguing for #furryraiders This is what they think of us #furry #furryfandom pic.twitter.com/YInH8GQokn— Feyd (@BluFawx) April 20, 2017
The attempt to get Califur shut down by Casey Hoerth, altfurry and Nathan Gate cost $24,000 to the con. Here’s the con’s statement about threats they received.
https://t.co/7qxUDS807B@CaliFur lost $24,000 because people made threats over a baby-fur panel which they already hosted the year before. pic.twitter.com/361RclepwY— ChipFox 🦊 (@chipfoxx) June 26, 2017
Before Nathan’s phone call and the chat screens were posted, Altfurry and Casey Hoerth lied that they didn’t organize the calls to Califur. (archive 1, 2.)
When the denial stopped working, those tweets were deleted. Then altfurry members began lying that Nathan Gate / TheBigKK was never a member, isn’t a furry, or used to be a member but isn’t any more. The story changes depending on which one is lying to deflect blame. (1, 2, 3, 4)
big kk never was part of alt furry and isnt even a furry himself.— That Pesky Pooch (@IAmARealRealist) July 21, 2017
No, revisionism is people trying to say the BigKK person who said "anthrocon is next" & called @Califur is Altfurry. He's not even a furry— #BroniesForTrump (@GWSSDelta) July 21, 2017
No one in the discord server posed as a news team no one we publicly acknowledge to be part of the discord server @AltFurryDiscord can.....— Husky Jack (@JackLaMothe) June 27, 2017
Yes the BigKK has not been a member of our discord for several weeks. He left on his own Accord after this reaction. Our discord disavows...— Husky Jack (@JackLaMothe) June 27, 2017
Altfurry also lies about their neo-nazi ties. It’s part of a very old strategy. The first step is to try to present themselves as a legitimate and non-violent political or ideological movement. The second is to provoke a violent or visceral response in a supposedly non-violent manner. The third is to point to that response to claim the other side is unreasonable. They’ve fallen back to starting over with the first step now.
This is Alt-furries strategy every time they attack a convention. https://t.co/oBufIeXnhw— ChipFox 🦊 (@chipfoxx) August 12, 2017
Nazis on 4chan don't know what to do now that one of their own has been found out. Trying to find out how to spin narrative. #DefendCville pic.twitter.com/XFsN9EU8mw— It's Going Down (@IGD_News) August 13, 2017
Nazi strategy: "Leftists will recognize dog whistles and know we're crypto, but normies won't listen to them." pic.twitter.com/YSkLp1J95C— Natalie Wynn 🦋 (@ContraPoints) August 13, 2017
Watch out for /pol/ & nazi groups desperately trying to "flip the narrative" (bury the facts of their murderous rampage)— Deo (@DeoTasDevil) August 14, 2017
Don't fall for it.
(UPDATE:) Nathan Gate contacted me to beg me to take this article down. See screenshots in this thread:
Skip if you don't want heavy talk, but check the photo in this Hatewatch article. https://t.co/NtqZMJbGFG— Dogpatch Press (@DogpatchPress) January 26, 2018
In the crowd, center right you can see Nathan Gate, who swatted Califur with fake phone calls by direction of @altfurrydiscord. It cost them $24,000.
(UPDATE:) This thread has even more evidence of altfurries and neo-nazis colluding, with more named.
Let your local meets know if any member of Altfurry attends. Don’t fall for the fake story that “both sides” are responsible for the aggression you can see here. Urge them to respond like The Furst State did:
Our announcement regarding hate speech at our events and in our online communities: https://t.co/UnqLvIE8U7 pic.twitter.com/FfH3RbFzt8— The Furst State (@TheFurstState) August 13, 2017
So what are you going to do about #AltFurry nazis in the fandom?— ThatFabulousBastard (@Silvermoonwolf5) August 12, 2017
Talk to your local meet or con organizer and urge them to ban hate imagery
Altfurs aren’t just trolls, they’re neo-nazis hiding behind animal avatars. They intend to exploit and attack this little fandom because it’s supportive for many kinds of people, who built something happy, creative, and thriving on it’s own terms. Keep it that way by ditching them until they ditch the hate.
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Confrontation and marginalization. That’s about the only way to deal with this.
If I had any gumption or pull or anything I’d try organizing a group to lobby all the conventions to make statements opposing these assholes, naming and shaming the ones who won’t.
Alas, I’m only able to post comments and archive comics.
Same here, I can imagine smaller cons are nervous about getting swatted by these pricks.
Wow, what a toxic hell stew of assholes.
Never thought I would see the day where this shit would be in my own back yard.
I guess in the end 4chan really was cultural cancer.
4chan was infiltrated and changed. It was a concerted effort by neonazi groups to take advantage of the joking not-serious psuedo-nazi claims on /pol/ and /b/. People who didin’t get the joke and thought it was serious eventually outnumbered those who were doing it to poke fun at it.
has anyone reported this server to the discord support email yet? some of this stuff is 100% against their terms of service and community guidelines.
I got tips that there is news coming. Don’t worry.
But remember folks, calling the Far Right the Far Right will only drive them even further Right!
They should be the far far away from the fandom right.
Huh, sounds like they’d appreciate some trigger warnings or a safe space, eh?
I’ve heard recently a that a GOH of the scheduled Alamo City Furry Invasion (a new convention in October in San Antonino TX) has declined because some alt-furries are attending or are on staff.
Does anyone know any more info about this? As a Texas furry I hate to see this stuff happening.
Hiya. ACFI has had 3 issues that I know of involving the Furry Raiders.
1) A staffer was a Raiders member, but stepped down after some embarrassing attention – whether they really left or just stepped into the background, I don’t know.
2) A GOH left because of the following.
3) A staffer had what appeared to be inappropriate collusion with them, but offered an explanation about doing it for investigation.
These aren’t publicized for now. They published a statement against hate groups and hate symbolism. Personally I’m not impressed, but they haven’t even had a con yet. It’s the first one and mistakes happen. Nobody besides altfurs are out to attack cons. However if evidence of dishonesty comes out that would be a good time to have a public discussion.
Man, I just hope this doesn’t give the fandom a bad rep as a whole. Furries ruin everything but this is taking it way too far.