A deep dive into the Altfurry mission to “redpill” fandom with hate – Part 2
by Patch O'Furr
In their own words.
Part 1 gives background about how the Altfurry hate group works. Now here’s the screenshots.
- Chat log file: https://nofile.io/f/RhcCRJjsMSF/gjdlqx.txt
- Load file into the reader: https://dht.chylex.com/build/
The source is “Altfurry Mead Hall,” a Discord server that grew after the neo-nazi march at Charlottesville. It documents months of chat from late 2017, specifically from their private channel for trusted staff. That filters out memes and filler and shows what they’re really about. The server is run by Casey Hoerth/”Len Gilbert”, AKA “The Furred Reich”. These chat logs add to a long mission of hate shown by previous leaks from his Altfurry Discord group.
Screenshots are duplicated in imgur galleries for another reading option. One user named Kilton had their ID blanked when this leaked.
“Len” (Casey) is paranoid about vetting and ranking staff, with applications, personal vouching and a point system to judge their cult devotion. (Isn’t it funny when they claim to be about free expression with no gatekeeping?)
A supposed 18+ group rule is bent to allow a minor into their most trusted staff channel. (Political loyalty comes before anything else.)
Len gives a mental map of associated altfur servers. Newcomers are funneled into different groups so they can be groomed or played against others.
Hardcore political racists are specially welcomed after many left because furries were too gay and centrist. Len makes attracting them fundamental while keeping it from public notice. It shows that altfurry is inseparable from hate, and members are complicit. (Quote: “Gas the kikes.”)
Insecure Len has an enemy list with Dogpatch Press on top as “worse than @Deotasdevil”. (Wow, he hates something more than a vocal woman.)
Midwest Furfest got them extra active, but they didn’t meet because Deo leaked a meet plan. (In altfur parlance, that’s “cucked”.)
The chat talks about Foxler being an embarrassing association for them, especially with being implicated in the chemical attack on Midwest Furfest in 2014, making it hard to sugarcoat what they do.
They’re relieved that FBI attention on Foxler hasn’t gotten worse and led to arrests yet.
They discuss Dionysius trying to break up the Furry Raiders and how it’s good for them because the Raiders are a mess all the time. (Pot, kettle…)
They wanted an interview on the politics channel Louder with Crowder to make altfurry look “good” by accusing Antifa furs and FA of working together.
They have a dream to make a right wing con and turn the tables on “commies” by making them walk on eggshells. (Only if there was funding from the failed idea of member fees paid to Dionysius.)
Grooming tactics include filtering curious newcomers through a sham site that pretends to look neutral.
Trolling tactics include scheming to take over old abandoned FurAffinity accounts to make sockpuppets with histories.
There’s lengthy focus on trolling a chat group interview with Deo, trying to push members to fight each other. They discuss trolling tactics on and on and on. They want to look normal and reasonable by avoiding talking like nazis, making their enemies look mad and crazy, then stealthily pretending to be lefties and attacking popufurs to make others hate lefties.
This is what a hate group does. It has nothing to do with being friends, making and sharing furry art, or being in a fandom. Fandom is nothing more than their target for trolling, politics, grooming and recruiting. Altfurry has no concept of a community. They’re selfishly fixated on “power” in it.
To them, power means popularity – with zero understanding about how having friends comes from being a friend. They don’t even make creative stuff that catches notice. They want to be cool and proud of something without doing any work for it, motivated by jealousy. Racial supremacy just makes a lazy dividing quality that’s innate and can’t be taken away. Their main activity is hating people who get in their way. The stigma that comes from such bad behavior makes them more and more thirsty for attention, while they seek authority to force fandom to accept them unconditionally. It’s the most cliquish thing ever, and the saddest part is they convince each other that they’re right.
The defining feature of this group isn’t being hateful trolls – it’s being ultimate losers. They will only grow up by being exposed but avoided until they leave it.
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LOL @ Kekus Lupus’ rant that starts with “They aren’t interested in open discourse.” It’s a textbook example of projection.
This is a perfect example of a flaw in the fandom which is too often overlooked in my opinion. It is the fact that furs are people who where fur suits and people suck. I believe crappy people are the biggest driver for the popularity of the fandom. I know that not all people are bad but it seems if you take a sample of more than ten you will have an example n that group of why people don’t necessarily want to be associated as human. Just because a person suits up doesn’t mean he will instantly be a better person. It is so disheartening to see that this is the case no matter where I look.
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